Best way of storing dvds?
in the past i've just ripped them to divx for viewing, however i just got a 300gb hdd and setup a linear raid under linux with another drive to give me 391gb.
i've tried using dvd decrypter to rip them to iso files, i tried viewing the iso's using xbmc but they didn't play. so, at the moment i've just been ripping the vobs to a single big vob file.
im looking for ways to associate meta data with my files and the easiest way to download it and save it. and the best way to save it (iso, img, folders)
so you're prolly way out of luck there. it's the reason that you can't play them from your box, but you could try dvdshrink and rip them into a image file and run the movie from there. the con about just having ripped dvd's on a hard drive is that you can't access menus from the xbmc, it will almot always just run the (main) movie itself.
had no problem so far.
elupus,
stop wining about that renaming stuff. i do it as i said, and there is nothing difficult about it.
only thing i might add is that i allways use dvdshrink to only extract the movie (so not the menu!) and usually only 1 or max 2 languages (english and dutch). this saves space and useless stuff. just find the .iso (not .img!) and the movie starts straight away.
adioso
it works for you because your ripping with dvdshrink and leaving in pretty much only the video. no menus or anything. hence you can get away with naming it as .iso. however try playing any other dvd image with anything more complex than this and your more than likely to run into major problems. as elupus has said xbmc and mplayer rely on dvd images being named .img so that the software knows that it is in fact a dvd that your trying to play. it can then attempt to correctly play the movie. if an even slightly more complex dvd image file is named .iso then xbmc will have problems interpretting it as a dvd and your likely to get odd things happening. such as only an extra being played or the video used for the menu playing. or if your lucky enough to get the movie playing you might not be able to switch audio or subs.
it's very bad practise to give out advise when you don't understand the consequences of doing so and aren't willing to give a full explanation of what may or may not happen because of this.
this is why devs and the support guys get so exasperated, if 50 odd people read this thread and think it's ok to name dvd images as .iso and only half of then run into problems that's still 25 people you then have to re-educate (after they start complaining that xbmc is a buggy pos) because someone else got it wrong. there is no reason that your dvd image files shouldn't work when properly named as .img.
this gets ripped to 1 big .iso file.
i play this file connecting over samba.
i have tried pretty much all the settings in dvd shrink to rip into an iso file and it always separates it into sections with one main md5 file. i have been successful in making and iso with dvd decrypter, but only if the file is less than 4.1 gb. i dont really care what program i have to use to make it work, i just want one file per dvd if at all possible.
thanks
so, xbmc doesn't seem to have problems reading files greater than 1gb. by my understanding iso (cd format) has a filesize limitation of 1gb hence why they are stored as 1gb files on the dvd.
mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device e:\movies\bla.img
or
mplayer e:\movies\bla.iso
the second way doesn't see the image file as an image file at all, but as a huge mpeg file without any structure at all. it just searches though the file untill it finds some arbitrairy mpeg sequence and starts playing there. that mean in the dvd case that you might end up with part of menues or extras playing. in the first example mplayer will try to parse the file as a proper dvd and play title 1 in it. the point the second version is when playing vcd/svcd images, which is just that. a huge mpeg file, and can't be played the other way. plus some dvd's can be properly parsed by mplayer, (as it has very limited support for dvds) and as such can only be played in the second manner.
this gets ripped to 1 big .iso file.
i play this file connecting over samba.
xbox --> utp to switch --> wifi 802.11g --> server with .iso
no problemo.
cheers
thanks man, i'll buy the 802.11g module for my cisco bridge now =)
i have been trying to rip my dvds with dvd shrink and play them with xbmc. previously i just ripped into folders and looked through the vobs until i found the movie. now if i try to rip the movie into an iso image with dvd shrink i get one main md5 file and then like 5 or however many iso files. i have it set to not split up the vobs but how would you do this to the iso files?
in the past i've just ripped them to divx for viewing, however i just got a 300gb hdd and setup a linear raid under linux with another drive to give me 391gb.
i've tried using dvd decrypter to rip them to iso files, i tried viewing the iso's using xbmc but they didn't play. so, at the moment i've just been ripping the vobs to a single big vob file.
i'm doing the same currently, except i hit 1tb :kickass: and with fbsd , i am wondering if 802.11g will stream the movie ok.
are you sure the iso files by dvd decrypter doesn't work? have you've tried using mkisofs after using dvdbackup? i haven't tried either yet as 802.11b is insufficent to stream for me...if someone can answer that i'd be happy =)
.img is working fine though.
with .iso i was simply getting an access exception and then xbmc would eventually lock up.
*edit*
ok, so i come home tonight and now the .img isn't working, (can't maintain cache) lol.
although, that may have something to do with norton disk doctor saying that my movie drive is 99.4% fragmented. however, playing the .vob files directly and my cache doesn't dip below 78%.
this gets ripped to 1 big .iso file.
i play this file connecting over samba.
xbox --> utp to switch --> wifi 802.11g --> server with .iso
no problemo.
cheers
what i think i picked up from that was that if you rip your dvd as an .img file on dvd decrypter, you can use the subtitles?
if this is the case this is good news as i am 70% deaf and need the subs.
so far i have ripped as .iso and not been able to get subs. now i think i understand why.
elupus,
stop wining about that renaming stuff. i do it as i said, and there is nothing difficult about it.
only thing i might add is that i allways use dvdshrink to only extract the movie (so not the menu!) and usually only 1 or max 2 languages (english and dutch). this saves space and useless stuff. just find the .iso (not .img!) and the movie starts straight away.
adioso
setventonoff(true);
i know how xbmc work in this issue as i coded it and i do tend to have to repeat this way to often as people are to lazy to search.
setventonoff(false);
i was only education everybody on how to get xbmc to play dvd properly (ie that is without menu's still), which you either apperently doesn't know or don't care about. they way you play them you are lucky to get any support for subtitles, less even for switching subtitles/audio streams. perhaps that work for you as you mainly seem to only rip one audio stream/subtitle stream, but anybody else that might start doing this should atleast know the proper way of doing it.
the way you do can be a secondary option of xbmc fail to play the file when named .img, but imo only as an alternative as quite a few stuff inside our core (mplayer) depends on that the dvd is detected properly.
i had been using a build from last feb that was working with dvd in .iso format. (which i was using since the .ifo support seemed to be busted).
however, when rolling up to some of the later builds, my .iso images had been crapping out on me. i had seen a note about .ifo support being fixed so i decided to convert some of my .iso dvds back to .vobs. it had seemed to be working but i ended up in the same boat, could play the .vobs fine but the .ifo would result in massive stuttering. tried moving the file to the xbox drive and it worked fine, just stuttering with the .ifo over smb.
so, i went converted back to .iso and went back to the ealier version of xbmc. in the process i had noticed that the multiple audio tracks were missing. it's not that big of a deal but found it odd.
however, i stumbled across this thread and decided to give the .img a shot with the newer build. well, lo and behold everything works fine in with my images named with the .img extension (including the multiple audio tracks).
perhaps they finally removed .iso support from mplayer? whatever the case, i'm a happy man again having my files actually run. you learn something new every day :d
elupus,
stop wining about that renaming stuff. i do it as i said, and there is nothing difficult about it.
only thing i might add is that i allways use dvdshrink to only extract the movie (so not the menu!) and usually only 1 or max 2 languages (english and dutch). this saves space and useless stuff. *just find the .iso (not .img!) and the movie starts straight away.
adioso
it works for you because your ripping with dvdshrink and leaving in pretty much only the video. no menus or anything. hence you can get away with naming it as .iso. however try playing any other dvd image with anything more complex than this and your more than likely to run into major problems. as elupus has said xbmc and mplayer rely on dvd images being named .img so that the software knows that it is in fact a dvd that your trying to play. it can then attempt to correctly play the movie. if an even slightly more complex dvd image file is named .iso then xbmc will have problems interpretting it as a dvd and your likely to get odd things happening. such as only an extra being played or the video used for the menu playing. or if your lucky enough to get the movie playing you might not be able to switch audio or subs.
it's very bad practise to give out advise when you don't understand the consequences of doing so and aren't willing to give a full explanation of what may or may not happen because of this.
this is why devs and the support guys get so exasperated, if 50 odd people read this thread and think it's ok to name dvd images as .iso and only half of then run into problems that's still 25 people you then have to re-educate (after they start complaining that xbmc is a buggy pos) because someone else got it wrong. there is no reason that your dvd image files shouldn't work when properly named as .img.
elupus,
sorry for the whining remark, i missed the smiley and wass trying to be a smart ass ;-)
deltop and in general, i did describe clearly what did work for me. so for guys just wanting to rip a movie and having troubles, my remark wasnt that bad. off course, renaming them to img doesn't matter then much in this case. it will play anyhow.
btw, multiple audio and subtitle streams do work this way 100% and you can switch between them.
adios, and for coders all the respect. no clue you had actually worked on the code here. just came accross your 'rename to img' remark at some other places, and it seemed out of place as a remark to my way of working.
btw, talking of a terabyte...
i built & setup a 1.3tb fileserver for work using 6x 300gb hdd raid-5.
setup samba and netatalk for pc and mac access, fear. :)
image files should work fine as long as they are named .img not .iso.
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